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As deadline passes, Jordan says progress made, but still no settlement

Negotiators for the School District and the Philadelphia Federation of Teachers reached the midnight deadline without reaching agreement on a new contract.

PFT president Jerry Jordan said in an interview that the two sides "made some progress," although there were still many unresolved issues.

Asked whether the two sides were still far apart, he said, "There are a number of outstanding issues. We were not close enough to close the deal."

Jordan said that the negotiations would continue Sunday and throughout the holiday weekend. He is still planning to hold a general membership meeting on Monday night.

There seemed to be some disagreement between the statement Jordan put out just after midnight and what the District said. Jordan said that the current contract remains in effect, while the District said that it has expired.

Following is Jordan's official statement:

"At this time, the PFT has not reached a tentative agreement for a new contract with the School District of Philadelphia. Teachers and staff will continue to work under the terms of the current contract.

"We are making some progress in negotiations, but there are still difficult issues that we are working hard to resolve. We will continue to work with the district to negotiate the terms of a new contract."

The District also issued a statement:

“The School District of Philadelphia and the Philadelphia Federation of Teachers are continuing negotiations so as to reach a multi-year agreement to replace their currently expired collective bargaining agreement.  We remain optimistic that a settlement can be reached, and we are on target to have a safe and successful opening of schools on September 9.  As additional information becomes available, we will provide it.”

The District is seeking deep pay cuts, as well as a restructuring of the compensation system and major work-rule changes including a weakening of seniority in assigning teachers. It says it needs $103 million in concessions from the union to help close what was originally a $304 million budget gap. Jordan made a statement on Thursday agreeing to a pay freeze and some benefit changes, but not to pay cuts.

The PFT has about 15,000 members, so to achieve $103 million in savings comes out to an average of nearly $7,000 per union member. The District is seeking pay reductions ranging from 5 to 13 percent, depending on salary level.

There is legal uncertainty over whether the School Reform Commission, which was given extraordinary powers when the state took over the District, has the power to impose terms on the PFT if no agreement is reached. Under state law, city teachers are prohibited from striking. Jordan said Thursday that he did not expect to call for a strike vote at Monday's meeting in lieu of a tentative agreement.

 

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:50 am
BIG THANKS to The Notebook for your coverage of this complicated labor issue and all things SDP. Schools are communities and you enhance all of ours.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:08 am
Yes, thank you for getting this information posted. I didn't sleep last night because this MESS has been on my mind! Thanks, again!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:22 am
My concern is will all laid off employees be called back to open schools safely? Employees who have invested in the SDP for more than 10yrs are anxious and so are their families. Next year we will be well prepared.
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 1, 2013 2:37 pm
I also appreciate the Notebook's coverage of the ongoing contract talks. For those who have any doubts about the intentions of the corporate school reformers a la the Waltons, Bill Gates, and Eli and Edythe Broad, here is an excellent article called the "Bait and Switch of School Reform" by David Sirota of Salon.com. It's from September 2011, but the message is as timely as ever. Read it here: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/12/reformmoney/ EGS
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:28 am
Don't throw us under the bus, Jerry!!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:57 am
He already has. We just don't know about it yet.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:51 am
Is there anyone else who did not receive their PFT postcard in the mail? It's supposed to be our ticket in the door on Monday (a day without mail).
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:08 am
Print out your latest paycheck and bring an ID. That'll suffice as a ticket.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:57 am
If my memory is correct, there are PFT folk at tables to check those in who do not have a ticket. So yes, bring paycheck with your ID and I am sure you will be fine.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:21 am
The admittance post card was not sent. Your admittance came on the back of the PFT Reporter which is a newspaper. The PFT Reporter was mailed out weeks ago. Just print out your most recent pay stub!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 8:48 am
Got mine in first week of summer break. If you do not have one login to schoolnet and print off you last pay stub. also bring district ID and you should be fine. SHOW UP SHOW UP SHOW UP no matter what!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:55 am
I called the PFT office regarding the ticket and they said to bring photo ID and our medical, dental or prescription card.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:36 am
your paystub, dental or prescription card and either state or district id!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:30 am
I didn't get my postcard. You were supposed to call. They took my name and will have a table set up for this situation.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:10 am
So fellow members the ball is in our court. Here is what is exactly the same as 1973, and 1981, and 2000: Most PFT members are incredibly dedicated professionals We deserve to be fairly compensated because we do this for a living. Just like doctors, lawyers, accountants, superintentents and other professionals Just because we expect to be fairly compensated doesn't mean we are anti child. The district should honor contracts once they make them. Through the entire time till they expire. If you are a PFT member and would rather live without a union you should have the courtesy to be clear about that verbalize it and stay home.Monday. The union will die and u won't have to bother with any more rally's or meetings. If you believe that 10,000 + voting citizens are more powerful than Act 46 and the unreasonable demands our pft leadership is fighting against then get that this battle needs your participation and show up. For the parade and the meeting. Too bad if they are on the same day. Too bad if it is raining. Show up. For both. It is a big deal. Fight for students iin person not on your computer screen. Fight for the right to do what is great for kids in you classroom. Politicians hold all the aces. One thousand people no matter how well intentioned cant fight this effectively. 10,000 people can. 10,000 people united will make a difference for our students. That hasn't changed one drop since 1973. Show up and tell the powers to be that children are not pawns in a chess game and neither are we. Tell the politicans that we will vote. Show up. That for now is what you need to do. And it is not too much to ask. Show up.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:20 am
Amen, brother. Shoulder to shoulder we will make a stand.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:56 am
An excellent sentiment! On August 22 the showing was a poor statement of our solidarity. We need every red shirt wearing PFT member to show up at the Liacouras Center. Do not sit back and say we're working under the old contract terms keep you away. SHOW UP! SHOW UP! SHOW UP!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:59 am
Shoulder to shoulder brothers and sisters!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:48 am
I figure that half the PFT members marching around city hall were not members. SOOO what did we have a 500 member march, real solidarity !!!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:33 am
Please try to keep your negative comments out... Teachers aren't the only ones who read The Notebook, brother/sister. I will be there and I know PLENTY of others who will as well
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:12 am
Yes, thank you Notebook. You have been a friend over the past few weeks!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:44 am
I don't quite understand Jerry's statement that employees will "continue to work under the terms of the current contract". Huh? Continue? He does know that the district has trampled and ignored the contract. Right? Can we talk about the laid off employees who would not be laid off if the contract was being followed?
Submitted by Joan Taylor on September 1, 2013 7:25 am
I think Jerry is just trying to cling to whatever tatters of collective bargaining he can in the face of the district's vicious behavior. I plan to hit the parade and then the meeting. The parade is easy. Get there between 9:30 and 10 with your coffee, and take a nice friendly stroll down Columbus (Delaware to old fogies like me) Ave while you chat with some friends you haven't seen in a while. It would be nice to see significant attendance at the parade. Other unions show up in much greater numbers. It would be a great statement before Jerry goes back to negotiations. He should see that his members want him to stand tough. I would rather strike than accept any of the terms I've heard, including paying towards health benefits, which is simply another kind of pay cut. That fact that the health benefit/pay cut has been foisted on others doesn't make it any more attractive to me. If we're going to have to struggle, let's make it worth our while.
Submitted by Ron Whitehorne on September 1, 2013 10:00 am

A strong showing is important on Labor Day.   We need to show up not only because we want to show our strength and unity in the face of these attacks, but because we are part of the labor movement and we need to practice solidarity.   Remember in the last serious strike over thirty years ago it was the threat of a general strike the the Central Labor Council that compelled the Board to settle.   

 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:54 am
Line up for the parade is at 8:30.
Submitted by Joan Taylor on September 1, 2013 12:24 pm
I usually go closer to 10. You do need to leave a little time to park.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 8:45 pm
I think Ol' Jer has already sold us down the river.
Submitted by Eileen DiFranco (not verified) on September 2, 2013 2:20 pm
Please refrain from making negative statements about Jerry Jordan. It is simply not useful. There have been a significant number of rallies over the course of the last two years, most of which were sparsely attended by union members. Eileen Duffey and I ran "Occupy 44" for 6 months and we invited all union members to attend b/c we saw the handwriting on the wall. Very few PFT members attended. Last week there were 1,500 members out of 15,000 at a rally. A 10% show rate did not bode well for the membership. So, please, quit griping about Jerry and take a good hard look at yourselves. Jerry is our leader, for good or for bad. He's not our "daddy" who is going to make things right for people who choose not to stand up for their own rights.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 3:50 pm
No, he'll ram the contract down our throats without each union member being given adequate time to read it!!!! Either way you look at it, even if they don't take our 13% of our salary, we will still have a pay freeze and contribute to benefits---that equates to a PAYCUT!!! I have two children to support!! This January will be 2 years since we had a raise!!! WTF?????????????
Submitted by confused (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:25 am
If PFT members start paying up front for insurance and their wages are frozen, that is a pay cut. I wish that Jerry would start saying that. I agree that people should not get on here and trash Jerry or anyone. But expressing dissatisfaction with fellow union members because they will only complain about "the union" as if it were some building downtown and never show up for anything is fair game.
Submitted by Poogie (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:14 am
Last night a message was forwarded by the PFT to building reps. It talks about the fact the that AAA arbitrators have been retained to count our votes on a tentative contract should one be around to vote on. Let's analyze this document. AAA arbitration is is expensive as hell. In order to have them count the votes at our meeting it's going to cost the PFT at least $10,000. You don't call AAA arbitration on Saturday night and have them show up on Monday. A vote like this has to be planned well in advance. It is quite obvious that this vote was planned well in advance. Why? When? Months ago when I first heard about this Labor Day meeting the scuttlebutt was that it was in order to ratify a contract. That seemed a bit odd. As events unfolded it seemed even the less plausible. Now we are going to a meeting tomorrow night with the mechanisms in place in order to ratify a contract agreement. Does that not seem odd? My guess is there is already been a contract settlement of some kind. The last several weeks of quote "negotiations" have been a carefully choreographed kabuki dance starring Jerry Jordan and William Hite. We weren't even invited to the damn play. Now let's assume that this contract extension involves a huge raise for us and more days off. Even if that were true wouldn't it be nice to have a couple of days to look at the agreement and see what's in it? Instead, we are going to be asked to vote on a contract tomorrow night that no one has seen, no one has read and no one understands the full implications thereof. Is that fair? Why are they doing this? If the contract is full of such amazing plums why not let us read. However, I am sure that this contract is a giant Shit Sandwich and they don't want you to know what is in it. Now ignorance is often bliss but sometimes it will be nice to know what we are getting ourselves into. I could be completely wrong about all of this. However, it sure looks like they are getting ready to vote on a contract tomorrow.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:07 am
Aren't the AAA at all contract ratification votes?
Submitted by just the facts (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:35 pm
Yes. It has to be done that way in all union votes, including elections, to ensure fairness and confidence that the vote was counted fairly.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:45 am
This is going to get predictable very quickly. Reports will surface later in the day that "progress is being made": tweets will follow. Later in the night, weary but undaunted, both sides will emerge to pronounce that terms have been reached, and though there are many challenges ahead, the city is prepared for a new day, a bright future for our children. Union leadership will gravely but proudly announce that they brought the district to terms that benefitted the whole union as well as the children; 5% across the board cuts and incremental raises on healthcare premiums with step raises frozen. Dumbfounded, a mass of crimson beshirted, placard waving Union members will be herded into the Liacorous Center to participate in a vote that, without their knowledge, has already been conducted. While it may not happen tomorrow, some day in the near future many of those people will discover that they knew all along that this was the way in which it would play out.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:44 am
Can you add "staffing was brought back to June 2013 levels"? Maybe that is what you meant by "benefiting the whole union". I agree with you 100%. The SRC will not impose a contract that would make the leaders of North Korea jealous, and there will not be a strike. It will play out exactly as you wrote. Egg-zactly.
Submitted by Headstart teacher (not verified) on September 2, 2013 9:33 pm
Well that did not happen!
Submitted by No reruns (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:23 am
Members, if Jerry tries to prion ounce another contract ratified when the majority has voted it down, we must rebel immediately.
Submitted by No reruns (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:18 am
Sorry, that should read, "pronounce another contract..."
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:44 am
This is why no one (in real life outside this blog) pays any serious attention to you. Back to the basement Mulder There is a meeting on Monday because it's the day before we are to report back to school and after the current contract expired. SO, see if you can keep up with LOGIC here, the membership has to meet on Monday to decide on one of two things. A) a new contract proposal (in which case AAA MUST be there) or B) vote on "alternative" options if there is no new contract to vote. Therefore, and since we are not the only people who utilize AAA, setting up this Monday meeting ahead of time is pure logistics.
Submitted by Poogie (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:49 pm
You mean we could not wait a couple of days to read the contract and see what is in it and maybe discuss it. In the real world where nobody takes me seriously people agree to contracts immediately and signs on the dotted line without understanding what is in them? That is where you live genius? That makes perfect sense if you are trying to hide something. Or Bamboozle people who believe in the real world contract are entered into without thought of time to reflect. God Forbid the Underlings had a chance to read the contract. Can't have that.
Submitted by No reruns (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:54 pm
We weren't allowed to read the contract four years ago. It was rammed down our throats. Our votes meant nothing. Let's not allow our votes to be taken away from us again.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:28 pm
Five years ago, JJ took a vote orally with yeas and nays even though we had all voted on paper after his statements. Of course there was no way possible to count everyone's vote prior to deciding on the contract...yet, I remember, he was quick to ratify that contract based on how loud people were! (I thought the nays were louder and yet left dumbfounded after listening to "testimony" after "testimony" about how lucky we are to still have jobs even if we had to endure a contract with few raises and more demands on us as teachers and Saturdays, and school closures...we were "lucky!" Well, I don't want to be "lucky" and just accept whatever PFT decides is best...If we have to pay to work, I don't see the point of even having a union. If we don't do something drastic, the law can't be changed and the SRC will continue to make demands of us until we burn! The flame under us has been continually turned up. When is it time to get out of the heat? Members, it is now or never. I say strike if we have to give back, work longer, in schools that have minimal supplies and personnel. What about those of you who have mortgages, and loans, or whose spouse is retired...how would a lower salary affect you? The State cannot rescind 15000 teaching licenses. What choice do we have? This is the year 2013...PFT was once a leader among unions...Let's set precedence for the country!
Submitted by HS teach (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:59 pm
Now I understand what is wrong with the "real world": it does not take seriously people who suggest things that make sense. BTW, little of paranoia is justified when you are constantly screwed over by the very people who claim to represent your interests. They say it's a conspiracy theory, I say it's vigilance.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:07 pm
Poogie-----Spread the word ----if Ted Kirsch tries to stop a PFT member from speaking like the last time--ALL PFT MEBERS SHOULD RUSH the microphone and demand you get to read the proposal ahead of time before voting!!!! You all need to say to them that this isn't gonna be like last time. NO PAY CUTS PERIOD!!! Demand that you have time to read the propsal and if the "Nays" have it and he doesn't follow it, then all members tell him right there at Temle that you are getting a petition from all members and going to the NLRB, National Labor Relations Board to ask he be ousted as PFT President due to misrepresentation of it's members!!!! This can be done. You are the PFT not him.
Submitted by Don't Be Cowed (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:36 pm
I'm with you. No one should be allowed to leave Liacouras if JJ and TK misrepresent our vote again. The work for us. They are not entitled to override our votes.
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:13 pm
Record the voice vote on your camera phones so we can prove how things really went down.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:39 pm
Folks, It's the PAPER BALLOT count that is the official vote. Just because you out yell someone means NOTHING! A lot of people do not participate in a voice vote, especially if they pressure or threatened by some of the voices being expressed here. They sit quietly, record their vote on the official ballot and slip it into the ballot box on the way out. THE VOICE VOTE IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VOTE. If anything make sure you fill out the paper ballot and get that turned in. Just because you shout louder, doesn't mean you are right or represent the majority of the members in attendance.
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:59 pm
However, JJ declared the vote 4 years ago ratified based on the voice vote, which was overwhelmingly against the contract. And many of us believe the ballot vote was fixed to match his pronouncement. If the PFT executive board wants our allegiance, it has to respect our decisions. It also has to allow us the time to read the contract, not force us to vote based on a bunch of bullet points.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 5:20 pm
Get real! The box that the ballots go into are positioned on top of RUBBERMAID TRASH BINS!!!!!!! Get it?????
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 1, 2013 2:09 pm
Bring paper or a poster and a marker so that you can record your vote in writing and hold it up if necessary. Someone else suggested this and I think it's worth repeating. EGS
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:24 pm
You already ARE recording your vote in writing on the official paper ballot handed to you as you enter the meeting and which, I hope, you place in the ballot box on the way out. The paper ballot is the ONLY official vote tally. So you can draw all you want, but unless you're filling out and submitting your paper ballot. . .it's for not
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:08 pm
A lot of us didn't believe the ballot vote was on the straight and narrow. I like the idea of a poster.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:51 pm
I guess the union caught wind to the issues sorrounding the clarity in voting. I just got an email that included clarification. "The AAA is hired to conduct these votes. At a contract ratification vote, members receive, from AAA personnel, a paper ballot upon entrance to the meeting. Members should turn in their ballot to a AAA representative as they exit the meeting (please note that if a member leaves early, prior to a voice vote, his/her ballot will be counted at the conclusion of the meeting with all paper ballots). Representatives of the AAA count the ballots and certifies the vote. President Jerry Jordan conducts a voice vote in addition to the official AAA paper ballot vote. THE PAPER BALLOT COUNT IS THE OFFICIAL RESULT, REGARDLESS OF THE VOICE VOTE. Please feel free to share this information with members so that everyone is clear that the vote is conducted by an impartial organization (AAA) that has no ties to either labor or management."
Submitted by SchoolDaze (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:06 pm
It seems like so many of us are not getting these e-mails.
Submitted by SchoolDaze (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:20 pm
It seems like so many of us are not getting these e-mails.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:50 pm
Well I use to be a building rep so I am still on the email list. It makes sense to not send these types of emails to everyone because its harder to control who gains access to it. Mostly the emails are to go from reps to individual school staff through private email.
Submitted by Jerry (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:56 pm
I am Jerry Jordache and never got this e-mail.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:41 pm
I am a building rep and never got this email.
Submitted by Mayday (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:24 am
Continue to work under the terms of the current contract? You mean the current contract that mandates at least ONE COUNSELOR PER SCHOOL? What's going on here? Stop throwing counselors under the bus!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:51 am
The "current contract?" Do you mean the one that the SRC can pick and choose from, and negate certain sections of it whenever it suits them? The ONLY way that I will vote "yes" to extend the current contract is if: 1. The extension is for a full school year. I'm not going through this again in December (or whenever a mid-year extension would run out). 2. The FULL contract is followed to the letter, including the mandated support staff, counselors, nurses, secretaries, work rules, etc. Otherwise I will vote NO.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:41 am
The contract has expired. There are no "current terms".
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:43 am
Well there goes the strike idea. I guess we'll just have to take what we get.
Submitted by No reruns (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:16 am
No, we won't. We do not have to allow a contraact to be forced down our throats. We can stand up, not only to the district, but to the union, if they force us to do so.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:48 pm
Its called all PFT members say no and then get the microphone and tell Jordan and Kirsch (he will be there to try and silence members again) and say you are getting a petition and going to the NLRB, National Labor Relations Board to demand his resignation as PFT President due to "misrepresentation of its members". I've seen it done before!!!!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:00 am

No, it's time to STRIKE. Regardless if they try to take are certificates away. I believe they would legally have to hold hearings for all 15,000 individuals members and that would cost a fortune for the taxpayers. I say take a risk folks. Don't let Jerry ram a contract down our throats. They are only going to insist on more and more be chipped away from us. You'll have to attend meeting 8 at night if they want. And if you live in the suburbs your screwed. This is only the beginning of the end. I say Strike anyway. We don't really have anything to lose. Corpo control of the district means that they'll put a revolving door on the schools, like charters do, and fire people at will, or the opposite, teachers will quit left and right, leaving costs low for labor, perfect for Corbett. Less overhead for retirement and health care. They don't care if experienced teachers leave or are fired for made up reasons. It's all about keeping costs down so tax savings can be passed to corporations. It's time to take a stand and if we fail we fail. If they fire a 15,000 of us strong, the city will go up in flames.

Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:19 am
BINGO and that will make Obama at least pretend to care because it will expose the corruption and carpet bombing of the poor for all to see. He'll have to take his eye off of OIL, I mean injustice in Asia for a minute and focus on the inner cities for a second.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:54 am
I'm with you. How long could a strike possibly last? Parents are more than ready for school to open. Students are bored and ready to go back. All camps and summer programs are now over. Both of these groups would let this city feel their wrath. It is not in the best interest of the city of Philadelphia to have 136,000 stuck at home for much longer.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:35 am
It is NOT the contract that declares a Strike illegal. It is ACT 46, that states that a Strike would be considered an illegal act and "could" result in our certs being taken away.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:08 am
Act 46 is illegal and put forth by a racist Tom Ridge in the first place. Our union and it's teachers did not fight it hard enough. We all can blame ourselves as well.
Submitted by Don't Be Ruled By Fear! (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:25 pm
Could be taken away, but won't be. There are too many of us to discipline in this way without having to cancel the entire school year and spend that time attempting to build up a new stable of teachers. Even in that amount of time, they couldn't do it. Do not be cowed, PFT.
Submitted by HS teach (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:04 pm
We have nothing to lose except our chains. Oh, wait, am I being unoriginal?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:05 pm
I say let the SRC impose whatever they want under ACT 46----Why? Becasue then the PFT Legal team can finally challenge it as unconstitutional in court!!!! The courts would not hear anything previously becasue the SRC did not invoke anything on us. Only until they do then the courts will hear it.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:26 pm
There are a lot of what ifs? Just because Act 46 is in place doesn't mean it is legal or constitutional. It is a law because they wrote it but cannot be deamed legal or illegal until it is challenged in court. The way to challenge it in court is to break the law the can it be ruled unconstitutional. Strike.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 1:52 am
Broken or enforced. They SRC can enforce a contract unilaterally made under the law and those of us affected will gain standing to challenge it.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 11:16 pm
Crawl off and go lick your master's boots, troll. We can strike and will so tell your task masters you have failed miserably in your scare tactics. You fail to understand how angry we are, but tomorrow night Nutter, Corbett, Zogby and the other fools will get a taste.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 3, 2013 8:24 pm
Actually if the SRC & SDP unilaterally imposed terms on us such as wage reductions, longer hours etc. it would effectively be a "lockout" and not a strike. Read up on labor law my friends. Act 46 states nothing about not working under a "lock out". The SDP would be locking us out of our jobs by changing the terms of our collective bargaining agreement.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:28 pm
Act 46 came after Charles Zogby was unsuccessful in turning the district over to Act 46. Zogby was Ridge's education secretary. A majority of this leads right back to Charles Zogby. People need to understand this and call him out. Look closely...After Zogby finished Ed secretary under Ridge, Zogby became a sitting board member of the largest online curriculum provider in the country, K-12 inc. Who was the CEO of k12 Inc? William Bennet. Know that name? Bennet has been trying to shut down public education since the Bush 1 days when he was Ed Secretary under him. How do I know this? k12 used our Philadelphia school as a training and pilot program. It provided online curriculum. When I began going through their curriculum, I found one bible thing after another. K12 eventually got booted from the district and not renewed when Bill Bennet made racist comments on his radio show about how Abortion has decreased crime in the inner city. Where are the investigative reporters in this town? This is a huge scam happening right in front of our eyes and this guy Zogby is almost single handedly taken down our district like he tried to do by giving it over to Edison. I would love for a real journalist to start exposing this. Please???
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:10 pm
Yes, I've also been shocked that the press has not covered the OBVIOUS corruption in all this. All the lines connect without even a loose end anywhere yet the press behaves as though there's a real crisis at hand in Philly. Some will point at Corbett but not one has come after Hite, Nutter or The SRC. I guess that tells us how influential the big money extends and that should scare the hell out of ALL WORKERS NOT JUST UNION WORKERS. They must know Hite comes form The Broad Foundation and all the "churn" he caused down South and The SRC are clearly just a bunch of hacks. Nutter has long been regarded as a non serious person devoid of feelings for his own people yet nary a word about any of them.
Submitted by tom-104 on September 1, 2013 3:10 pm
Check out "Who is Eli B road and why is he trying to destroy public education?" to see how deep this goes: http://defendpubliceducation.net
Submitted by HS teach (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:40 pm
Sounds like a job for Daniel Denvir.
Submitted by tom-104 on September 1, 2013 3:26 pm
Check out his latest about the charter scam: http://citypaper.net/article.php?Charter-operator-owed-its-schools-milli...
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 1, 2013 8:52 pm
Here are some highlights from the article: The School District is charged with overseeing city charters, but “does not have the power or access to the financial records of the parent organization,” according to District spokesperson Fernando Gallard. “We cannot conduct even limited financial audits of the parent organization.” “What happens if the charter ends?” asks Masch. “Then, Aspira still owns the building even though it was 100 percent paid for with taxpayer money.” --- My question is this. Aspira's Pantoja CS and de Hostos CS both underwent renewal this year. WHY DIDN'T THE DISTRICT AND SRC RAISE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT? EGS
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:20 pm
I really hope people start focusing on the root cause of all of this and go after Zogby. I have heard several other stories about him over the years. A very talented administrator got into a conference Zogby was speaking at several years ago. Zogby made comments about breaking up the school district and getting rid of the union to cheers. He then started "chest bumping" people in attendance. That is not the only time I have heard something similar about him.
Submitted by David Hensel (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:27 pm
If you've got something to say, put your name behind it. Most of these anonymous keyboard warriors won't be at the meeting tomorrow and won't be physically present and active this year in making things better. It is time for people to step up, get involved, and lead by your actions, in school, with the PFT, and your community. Enough with the anonymous whining. Get behind the mic at the meeting tomorrow, get out there and testify at the SRC meetings, and most importantly, stand up for the kids and your colleagues at your school. Step up and show everyone just how important and valuable an asset you are and will continue to be for our city and it's children. Time to sit at the grown up table folks. It is your world. You can change it.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:51 pm
Not a problem. Josh Kallen. 16 year proud veteran of the Philadelphia School District. The Zogby info is true and all public record. I have a lot of experience with K12 Inc and the connections are all there for people to see.
Submitted by Josh Kallen (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:18 pm
I don't need to do a song and dance and flail my arms around to get information out there. Believe me, I get it out there. I bring attention with facts and not a show or getting in someone's face. I am preparing to give my students the best possible education I can this year, even with all of the turmoil. Right now, that is my focus along with getting the correct facts out there. We are all in this together. Josh Kallen
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:32 pm
Please look at this K-12 link from 2004. This is how I know all of the dots are connected. http://www.k12.com/educators/research-results/case-studies/william-h-hun...
Submitted by Josh Kallen (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:23 pm
"“In Pennsylvania, where K12 Inc. collects about 10 percent of its revenues, the company has spent $681,000 on lobbying since 2007. The company also has friends in high places. Charles Zogby, the state’s budget secretary, had been senior vice president of education and policy for K12. In a statement, Mr. Zogby said he still owned a small number of K12 shares, but did not make decisions specifically affecting online schools.”" http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/12/14/school-choice-bad-...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:19 pm
How is it fair that k12 has enough EXTRA money to have airplanes flying over the beaches for a few grand a pop but public school is not going to even have books for kids this year.
Submitted by Josh Kallen (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:18 pm
http://jonathanpelto.com/2012/06/08/k12-inc-leading-the-corporatization-... The Vallas/Zogby connection. It is all crystal clear.
Submitted by Rich Migliore (not verified) on September 1, 2013 12:23 pm
Exactly. Charles Zogby, is a main player in all of this. He has been all along. I previously related my experience with him at the Coalition of Charter Schools Convention back around the time of the state takeover. He bragged about breaking up the Philadelphia School District and its unions. Then he went around shaking hands and chest bumping his "friends." Like they had won a coup. It was the eeriest thing I ever saw in my 40 years as a professional educator and advocate. It was scary. I heard someone tell me they did the same thing at an Edison Schools corporate meeting. You just can't make this stuff up. it is jaw dropping. Democracy Matters and so do Elections Matter.
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:48 pm
Rich---I beg you enough with the chest bumping from Zogby. I can't takes no more. If Jordan allows a pay cut, everybody should walk out and expose all of this for the whole country to see. Obama will then have to play President for a minute and behave like one. He's too busy following orders for OIL in Asia right now, but he'll then have to deal with Philly for a minute. Did I say, OIL, I meant he's fighting for justice in Asia, not oil. What a crock !!!!!!!!!! READ TOM 104'S POST ON ELI BROAD--------EVERYBODY.
Submitted by Ken Derstine on September 1, 2013 4:38 pm
www.defendpubliceducation.net
Submitted by Natalie Minkovsky (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:03 pm
How do we make sure the vote is not stolen on Monday? I don't have much experience with this sort of things. All I can think of is that we, who are suspicious, should come early and sit together, let's say in sections 102-103. This way we can monitor the dynamics of the situation and respond as a group. Any other suggestions? I am answering to the David Hansel's challenge by putting up my name.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:59 pm
All members email Jerry Jordan, jjordan@pft.org, and execoffice@pft.org and demand he let us see the recommendations, or contract ratification terms if that's the case beforehand. I mean us teachers have to give our lesson plans in advance to administrators for review, why can't the PFT do the same-let us review what they negotiated or what we are voting on in advance. I am a union person and been in a couple of unions, but honestly the PFT nowadays is not transparent (maybe that's the reason for apathetic members-but no excuse) or they don't appear to inviting to members feedback. I hear many experiences members not only fighting with the District for things in the contract already but the PFT too who haven't been too supportive often and justify the District's violation of the CBA sometimes . Makes no sense and that's how you lose power.It chips away as you turn a blind eye and let things go without a making it right. I will be there Sept 2nd.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:38 pm
Again, to all----if Jordan and Kirsch (will be there to silence anyone who dare approaches the microphone with opposing views) do not let you read the proposal ahead of time or give time to read it, or if the "Nay's" outscream the "yah's" and Jordan pulls his stunt like last time, then all PFT members need to rush the microphone and tell Jordan you are getting together a petition and going to the Nationa Labor Relations Board and asking for his ouster "due to misrepresentation of it's members". It can be done and has been done in other unions. NO PAY CUT AT ALL!!!! Or all Pft members walk out of the building and no one votes!!!
Submitted by Don't Be Cowed (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:50 pm
You're correct. The PFT is paternalistic, rather than transparent, believing 15,000 educated adults aren't capable of making their own decisions. When we speak truth to power, it must be to PFT leadership as well as the SRC and its backers.
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 1:43 pm
Remember Chicago. We must be as strong as our sisters and brothers in the Windy City.
Submitted by g (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:34 pm
When we all went to "vote" on the last contract,I went away feeling so frustrated and angry. After a token amount of time allowing comments,someone from Jerry's team moved to close discussion. To make a show of it, they said it was not "carried "and allowed several more speakers. Then the next person (from down on the floor right there with Jerry )moved again to close comments. Who got to decide that the motion was carried? The person who had already agreed to the contract and was done hearing about it. That was when they promised that there was no way it would lead to people losing their jobs to private entities. The SRC then spent the next several years giving public schools away to those very corporations.
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:08 pm
We learned during that vote that our voices did not count to our own leaders. Paternalism led to fiasco. Hopefully JJ has learned from that experience. We'll see tomorrow. It is inexcusable that the lack of transparency and refusal to allow membership to defend itself has the majority of members questioning their own union leadership at a time when we should be united behind it, but that situation was created by leadership, who must heal it tomorrow night as they present us a contract that gives back nothing - or allows us to fight for our livelihoods.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:47 pm
Exactly!! We cannot allow that to happen again "by any means necessary".
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 2:23 pm
Contracts are ratified by secret ballot not voice acclaimation. We can send our team back to the table if we choose to. Hope we dont have to. But if 10,000+ members had shown up last Thursday we would have a decent proposal already. Don't worry about who is looking at the anonymous comments on this blog worry about who is counting the red shirts (votes) at the parade tomorrow. The mayor will be looking the governor will be looking parents will be lookingCcomcast will be looking William Penn foundation will be looking The teamsters will be looking Bob Brady will be looking State legislators will be looking. And know that this is only a little bit about this contract it is about collective bargaining rights. This is about our pensions. This is about our due process rights. Some rallies are more important than others. Both are beyond important tomorrow. The decision to show up or not show up tomorrow will do more good or harm than anything Ted Jerry or anyone's else will do or say at that mike tomorrow. And Ted was marching down Broad Street last Thursday. We're you? Show up. For Both events tomorrow. Show up.
Submitted by JK (not verified) on September 1, 2013 4:01 pm
Check out this Washington Times article from 14 years ago about Zogby being investigated for inappropriately steering Edison Inc. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2002/aug/8/20020808-035827-4146r/
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 5:50 pm
You see this is exactly why I am so infuriated--OK, I get infuriated quickly, but still-------------------The press knows how low down these folks are yet the press doesn't report any of it. EVERYBODY knows it but nary a word. That's scary stuff all by itself. When I read the nonsense printed in the Inquirer and Daily News, I think I'm in the Bizarro World.. It reminds me of Josef Goebel's ability to stop the free press in Nazi Germany or Stalin ordering pictures and names of people who had fallen out of favor, to be ERASED from history books. I guess I'm exaggerating some but geez, the lack of the truth being printed is scary and it's not even debatable, these folks are bizarre behaving people, all of them caught over and over again doing despicable things yet nary a word for the very most part. Hite has a MAJOR history, almost ALL of it , bad and yet, nothing is printed. Big Money speaks loudest, I guess !!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 5:27 pm
Interesting to note , no teachers are discussing strike on twitter #phillyeducation.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 5:56 pm
I noted that too. Our brothers and sisters in Seattle are. Even have the #SEAstrike hashtag. Maybe it will change in about 24 hours. Or, maybe not. Yeah, probably not.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:48 pm
They are spineless and afraid of everything and are willing to take whatever the district hands them.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 5:31 pm
Let's take a strike vote anyway. If we don't have a contract, we won't work.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:08 pm
Sadly, I think most of our union brothers and sisters honestly don't care enough to fight. Most of the staff I work with seem kind of cavalier about it (Oh Jerry will take care of it). Some don't want to strike due to the fact that they don't want to get behind on mortgage payments. I didn't do much over the summer and banked as much as I could thinking that we would have to take a chance, including act 46, and strike regardless of circumstances. Young teachers are very naive and have no idea what the union did in 73, 80 and so on. I think Jerry is tired after 35 some years of fighting every three years or so. I hope I'm wrong, even a little wrong. Tomorrow's turn out at Temple will be the ultimate decider. Most teachers are at the shore wringing out what's left of their vacations. The other attitude I see is the old, I'm five years away from retiring and I don't care what happens. I just want to get through the next five years. My reply is: Five years can be the difference from retiring in the best possible shape or working until you drop dead, if they even want you around. I pray at least 8,000 care to show up. Think about it. It's the day before everyone reports back to work. Temple will be packed with traffic and the meeting does not start until 6pm. I can hear it now,"Oh I couldn't make it, I was coming back from the shore." This may be why we could be done!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:42 pm
I just finished talking to a teacher who didn't sound like she was even going to bother to come tomorrow evening to the membership meeting. She is not a new teacher, she's an "old head" who knows in her heart that she should be there. Younger teachers act like they don't have a clue about what's happening or going to happen. I am just disgusted with the whole matter, but not too disgusted that I won't be at that meeting tomorrow night. By the way, cut out the coupon for Staples and get your case of copy paper tomorrow! Good deal!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 1:26 am
As a young teacher I know what's going on and will be going. One thing I know is that if this contract changes teaching in Philly from a career to a just a job I won't be teaching here for long. I'll fight while I'm a teacher but what more can I do? Do you expect me to stay in Philly to be belittled, attacked, have my pay and benefits cut? It's pretty easy to see why teachers don't care when they can get out.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 7:00 am
I am glad that you are going to the membership meeting and I hope that you are encouraging your peers to go as well. I may have made a blanket statement about younger teachers and that was by design, to get them fired up and interested in what is taking place. I have sat in the teacher's lounge and heard from so many younger teachers who say, "If you do your job, you don't need the union." They just don't have a clue! In 1980, I was out there on that picket line along with thousands of others for 51 days. Yes, I had bills to pay, but my dad said, "We are a union family and we don't cross picket lines." There were days that even he was out there on the picket line and he isn't a teacher, but he was sharp enough to know, right is right! In the long run, it is the children of Philadelphia who are being harmed by the lack of funding to public education. The powers that be don't feel that they deserve a proper education, so they are building prisons to confine them, instead of pouring money into an educational system that can shape and assist them in determining whether they will succeed or fail. Teachers can't do it alone, parents need to be raising their children and helping them and demanding that they come to school to learn, not fight and being disrespectful. I'm done, see you all at the membership meeting tonight!
Submitted by Annonym (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:19 pm
Some of us non-Philadelphians never go to "the shore." We are not monolithic. We actually have lived beyond the borders of the Delaware Valley.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:45 pm
I am not accepting a PAY CUT. We are paid LESS than teachers in other districts. Paying for health insurance is a pay cut. Health insurance costs are not static!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:04 pm
It sounds to me like Jerry Jordan is rolling over. These negotiations don't seem contentious enough. They probably already have an agreement but are just letting Jordan look like he fought for us. If there's no more money coming, then there's really nothing Jordan can do anyway. We'll just have to accept it for now and try to get the pay cuts reversed later.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 6:08 pm
Accept?? Hell no. We can strike.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:25 pm
I do concur
Submitted by Annonym (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:01 pm
There are a lot more issues than pay / benefits. Remember Hite/Khin/SRC/Phila. School Dictatroship's proposed contract in February ? According to Diane Ravitch, "This is the most insulting, most demeaning contract ever offered in any school district to my knowledge. The terms seem more appropriate to a prison than to a school, although it seems that both teachers and students are treated as wards of a cruel, harsh state. Who would want to teach in such a district that cared so little for students and teachers?" Some of this has already been enabed by Hite/Khin/SRC/Philadelphia School Dictatorship! This is from the Inquirer Feb. 27, 2013: No seniority? No water fountains? More on the contract Kristen Graham POSTED: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 10:12 AM I’ve read the Philadelphia School District’s full list of demands from teachers, and it’s a doozy. (That’s on top of details reported last night and in this morning’s Inquirer.) Some bullet points: First, the financials - as already reported, pay cuts 13 percent for those who make $55,000 and above, with lesser cuts for those who earn less. (Employees who make under $25,000 would take a 5 percent cut.) But there would also be benefit givebacks. Teachers and other Philadelphia Federation of Teachers members who are paid over $55k would have to pay 13 percent toward their benefits, and so on - same percentages as the pay cut. Employees whose spouses or domestic partners are eligible for health coverage through their employer but take district insurance instead would pay a $70 surcharge. The Philadelphia Federation of Teachers Health and Welfare Fund, which has long administered benefits, would cease to exist; the district would administer benefits. There would be no more sabbaticals for teachers who’ve worked 20 years. Termination pay for employees who leave or retire would be reduced to $160 per day, as opposed to the current daily rate teachers are paid. There would be no more “steps” - graduated salary levels within categories of employees. There would be no more elevated pay categories for teachers with master’s degrees, master’s plus 30 credits, doctorates, and “senior career teachers” - those at the highest pay scale. There would be no more bonuses for those achieving prestigious National Board Certification. There would be no more extra pay for teachers who miss prep periods to perform other work as directed by their administrators. Layoffs and recalls would be subject to the superintendent’s discretion, and would only require seven days notice, much less than the current notification period. On top of the longer work day (eight hours for teachers as opposed to the current seven hours, four minutes), teachers would also have to lead professional development, attend meetings, perform bus, yard and lunch duty and be available for parent meetings outside work hours with no extra pay. That’s a big change to the current contract language. Teachers wouldn’t be able to leave the building during the work day, either, without principal approval. Nurses who are called in early or tend to emergencies during their lunch periods wouldn’t be given comp time. Seniority would be eliminated; all teacher vacancies would be filled by site selection, with the principal given final say in picking teachers. If there are vacancies on August 1, teachers could be transferred to fill them; the district would have discretion over this. Schools with more than 1,000 students would no longer be required to have librarians or librarian assistants. Schools would no longer be required to have counselors, and counselors’ caseloads would no longer be capped. Teachers could be assigned to unlimited classes outside their subject area, and high school teachers could be assigned an extra class without pay. There would be no limit on amount of consecutive time taught in a school day. There would be no limit on class size. (Current limits are 30 for the lower grades and 33 for the upper grades, large class sizes by anyone’s measure.) There are some major work rule changes, too - the one that jumped out at me was teachers no longer being able to use reasonable force to defend themselves. The district would no longer be required to provide copy machines, or “a sufficient number of instructional materials and textbooks.” The district would no longer have to provide a teachers’ lounge, water fountains, parking facilities, desks for teachers, a designated room for speech and language staff and psychologists or “accommodation rooms” for students with special needs. Counselors would no longer be guaranteed to have rooms with privacy and confidentiality, a telephone, a locked filing cabinet and a door. The district retains the right to subcontract, outsource or assign PFT bargaining unit jobs. Does that mean outsourced teachers? Temp secretaries? It’s quite a list. Of course, it’s the very first proposal, and the contract expires in August, so we’re in for months of talks. And there’s a question of whether the School Reform Commission has the power to impose terms on the PFT, and whether the PFT can strike, etc. Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/school_files/No-seniority--No-water-f...
Submitted by teach_in_sdp (not verified) on September 2, 2013 3:57 pm
I agree. The SDP is "distracting" us from the other issues with the HUGE pay cut talks. The PFT will claim "victory" if our salary is not slashed, but we will have lost with 40 kids in room, performance tied to test scores, longer work day, and the myriad of other "goodies" the privateers really want from us.
Submitted by Annonym (not verified) on September 2, 2013 3:52 pm
Hite/Khin also proposed getting rid of full pay for personal days and the 25% of sick days we have received at retirement / leaving the District. This is an incentive to not take off. If we lose this, there is little incentive to not take days. In the long run, it will cost the District more. They also want to control prep time and require "duties." The issues are more than salary - while extremely important. What if they get rid of step increases, pay for degrees, etc.? Why teach in Philly when other districts compensate teachers for time and education? There will be no incentive to work in Philly other than "drive by" teachers who need a few years of experience to get a suburban position.
Submitted by Headstart teacher (not verified) on September 2, 2013 4:54 pm
Ironic about the pay for banked days when you retire as everyone who could retire did!! Unless there is another huge wave this will save very little.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 6:18 pm
From now on DR. Hite and DR. Ackerman should have DR. capitalized to show the hypocrisy of Hite's position on getting advanced degrees and what it says about his philosophy of education.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:53 pm
If they can't pay us, then why do they insist that we work longer hours, with a vast population of students who can't stay in their seats to begin with? Sorry, everyone should strike. There is no going back once this has begun. Even if Allyson Schwartz becomes the next Governor, doesn't mean she'll reverse anything. Eddie didn't reverse the SRC and the take over did he? Nope. He might have a stake in all this too. He does live in Chestnut Hill.
Submitted by Teachin' (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:27 pm
Eddie make sure there was plenty of education funding, though. He fought hard to get it, too.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:05 pm
Eddie lives in East Falls!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:23 pm
Work rules are under attack because they want to gut the membership through arbitrary firings to get the numbers low. So low, there won't be any money for the PFT to keep going. It's obvious. It's so stinking obvious as those goddamn Koch Bros sit in their complex with a big shit eating grin on their faces. Time to storm their castle now. I don't understand why people are so complacent and not mad as hell. These pricks want for nothing but want to run the country because the have the cash to buy everyone off.
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 8:53 pm
You summed it very well as does Ken Derstine over and over again. The whole dynamic is to remove unions everywhere because they provide a natural and NECESSARY barrier between the super rich and everybody else. NONE of this is new except that Public Ed. is now the target of the Big Money folks and has been for about 10 years but after the elections of 2010, the green light has shined brightly. Yes, they have the power to bribe but they always had in the past too. I hold Obama to blame because he's been a massive disgrace and has given tacit approval for Duncan on down to decimate the inner cities for profit for the already rich. Torpedoes like Nutter, Gleason, Hite, Corbett will do damn near anything, it appears, for personal gain regardless of the collateral damage. These critters better all hope there is no God, not that they care anyway.
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 1, 2013 8:06 pm
Joe, The article "The Bait and Switch of School Reform" by David Sirota speaks about this very same phenomenon---the desire of some to remove unions because they are a barrier to corporations taking over the political system. The article is here: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/12/reformmoney/. Dr. Hite is an absolute Uncle Tom. It's a harsh label, but it's true. He plays the "race card" and "teacher card" when they are convenient for him. I heard him talk about his grandson, "a black boy," during one of his interviews with Marty Moss-Coane on WHYY. And yet look what is happening to the children of all colors in this city, but especially the children of color, since poverty is disproportionately high among Black and Latino/a children here and elsewhere in this nation. As much as I disliked Dr. Ackerman, I would love for her to rise from the dead and become superintendent again. Maybe she'd be worse in this situation than Hite, but she couldn't get out of her own way sometimes. Hite is far slicker than she was. Plus, Nutter didn't like her, so there wouldn't be the cozy Nutter-Hite relationship that we see now. EGS
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:48 pm
First of all, STOP IT !!!!!!!!! While I can still dunk a tennis ball, I am too old for such a position as well as unfit for dialogue and civil discourse with cretins trying to kill us. I would either jump myself or throw several of them out a window within about 30 seconds. Seriously, Hite will do whatever his handlers tell him to do. Period. Nutter, the same way, whatever will advance him, he'll do, point blank. Pay him, he'll do it. Ackerman was "The Show," a Vaudeville Act always looking for a stage. She treated Jordan and Nutter like red headed step children with Acne and neither of them was amused. In any case, no Thank You. I will buy you lunch though, anywhere you want, anytime you want, my treat. I may even buy you some school supplies.
Submitted by JK (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:12 pm
Ackerman was very good at playing those same cards.
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:45 pm
Yes, practice makes perfect.
Submitted by Chuck (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:21 pm
Who is Joe K other than some unregistered user one the Notebook?
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:04 pm
Joe K. is a former Principal, teacher and all around semi good guy. He has an M.A. plus 70 credits mostly from St. Joe's and was Director of Ed. for a couple RD Centers. He has no criminal record as of this post. He also doesn't smile and has no friends though he hasn't yet given up hope. He also had many conversations with Ackerman directly, none of them unpleasant though all of them unproductive. He left the district in June and has done nothing redeeming since then except shagging fly balls for a semi pro team, none of whom can play the game. Had long, black hair until scalp skin cancer came to visit long ago. Was on The 17 Magazine cover for The Eastern States a thousand years ago, maybe 2 thousand. Was The Rose Lindenbaum winner for Special Ed--ES--RD back in the day. May have been the worst Principal in the history of the world for several, despicable reasons, none of which he is proud.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 9:09 pm
AWESOME! You got my vote!
Submitted by Chuck (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:41 pm
The Meade principal?
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:46 pm
No.
Submitted by Chuck (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:17 pm
Yes.
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:01 pm
Chuck--I have no idea what you're talking about. I was a Principal several years ago for an RD Prison Type Complex. Don't know anything about Meade or its Principal.
Submitted by Chuck (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:57 pm
Joe, I was joking. I'm a little loopy. And kind of angry that I've not heard anything from our union today re: the contract. I think it's bulldoodoo.
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 1, 2013 10:58 pm
Yes, it is bulldoodoo. I'm a bit loopy too but mine is hereditary. No Biggie !!
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 2, 2013 12:50 am
Joe, You just retired from the District? I thought you'd been retired for a few years? I wonder if teachers have horror stories about you as a principal haha.... EGS
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 2, 2013 1:39 am
EGS--I'm officially mad at you but I shall respond anyway because that's the kind of guy I am. I retired in a sense but mostly just got tired of it all and walked, well, ran away. No, I left NO witnesses to recount my dastardly deeds; I'm crazy but not dumb. That's my story and I'm stickin to it even if you water board me. By the way, I'm officially mad at you and you're no longer in my will !!
Submitted by Annonym (not verified) on September 2, 2013 10:51 am
"I'm crazy but not dumb." This is what the Phila School Dictatorship/ Gleason/ Khin/ Hite/ Ramos/ SRC/ Corbett/ "Coalition-with-an-l for Effective Teaching"/ Teach for Awhile (TFA) / etc. don't get. We may be crazy to think teaching and learning in Philly is a worthwhile investment and that those who work DIRECTLY with students should be respected with a fair contract that doesn't trash fair pay/benefits and work rules. Simultaneously, we are smart enough to know when we are lied to and bullied by the same group of alleged "reformers." The rhetoric of the "reformers" is, in the words of Forest Gump (the epitome of crazy but not dumb) - "stupid is as stupid does."
Submitted by Education Grad ... on September 2, 2013 10:36 pm
Joe, I'm thinking you're being sarcastic about being officially mad at me. And please, the "I wonder if teachers have horror stories about you as a principal haha...." was sarcastic. Please tell me you could feel my sarcasm.... EGS
Submitted by Joe K. (not verified) on September 2, 2013 10:11 pm
EGS----OK, I forgive you and you're back in my will. Of course, I am and was only kidding with you. I admire your enthusiasm and innate kindness about the needs of the kids. Best of Luck tomorrow on the 1st. Day. JK
Submitted by Headstart teacher (not verified) on September 2, 2013 10:52 am
Dayum!! It gets better and better. You and Rich Migliore actually could run the district! Huh.......
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 7:08 pm
So if they take away extra pay for advanced degrees does that mean the 13% cut is all inclusive or is it a 13% cut after being reduced to bachelors only pay?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 8:44 pm
Great question. Hadn't thought of that, but I'm sure they have.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 2, 2013 10:36 am
They CANNOT be even thinking about that! That would be like a 30% pay cut for senior teachers. No way would they even think that. What's Jordan saying about this? I haven't heard any details of their "proposal."
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on September 1, 2013 8:19 pm
The members of the PFT need to grow a pair. If Jerry and Ted pull the same stunt. Walk out. File a claim. Get rid of Jerry. The only thing is, who would be a good replacement. When they allow them to gut our contract, and both of them have retired and are not concerned anymore, what will we do? I'm sure Jer will retire soon anyway. It's gonna be the same old game tomorrow night. People really need to raise hell if they are pulling a fast one.

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