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District, 32BJ agree on contract

by Dale Mezzacappa on Jul 23 2012

The District and its blue-collar union agreed Monday on a four-year contract that freezes wages until 2016 and under which union members will contribute between $5 and $45 a week back to the schools.

The agreement avoids layoffs for most of the 2,700 members of SEIU 32BJ Local 1201-- although they will occur as the District closes schools -- and staves off threatened privatization of the work that its members do. Their jobs are primarily in building maintenance, cleaning and transportation.

A longer memorandum of understanding explains in full the terms, which include maintaining national standards for cleaning and maintenance. The District had said it needed at least $50 million in concessions to avoid privatizing the services. City Council, from which the District was seeking an increase in funding, also urged it to reach an agreement with the union rather than privatize. 

Officials said this contract will save $100 million.

 

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Submitted by Philly Parent and Teacher (not verified) on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 21:18.

How does an employee make a "contribution" to his/her employer? It is a pay cut. Will out "contribution" be tax deductible? I assume the SRC will ask the same of CASA and the PFT. Again, don't call it a "contribution." Call it a pay cut on top of a salary freeze. Is Nowak, Ramos, etc. taking pay cuts from their employers?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 21:52.

If they're giving it back does that mean they have to pay taxes on it first? Or is it tax free since it's going to to a government agency? Either way it's a funny way to phrase it.

Submitted by Ms.Cheng (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 08:47.

You have a good point. My guess is that it is after taxes. In which case it is definitely not funny. This means that the income is taxable at the same amount as before: the City, State, Federal governments experience no loss of income, while the worker does. In addition, programs that screen by level of income do not see the real amount the worker is making.

I doubt that the households of these workers make enough where the "giveback" will make any difference if itemized as a deduction, that is contribution to a nonprofit, (only the tax bracket percentage is credited) or if it is worth it to deduct this at all: @ $45/wk =annual of $2340 max, which when added to existing local taxes, mortgage interest, etc. may or may not exceed the standard deduction.

It is a bad concession. It should have been correctly phrased and taken as a pay cut.

Submitted by anon (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 00:10.

"The District had said it needed at least $50 million in concessions to avoid privatizing the services.
Officials said this contract will save $100 million."

played any poker lately george?

Submitted by Ms.Cheng (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 08:56.

Indeed, the savings should have been $50 million at most. Sounds like it was dictation rather than negotiation.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 07:51.

100 million over 4 yrs..not just this year. I believe they saved them 20-30 million year. The new contract isn't all that bad and the non-raises are somewhat contingent on whether or not PFT teachers get raises. No one wants to reduce their salaries but it was either that or NO JOB! If they (PFT) do (and most think they will get some type of raise), 1201 has the right to reopen the contract and get these workers raises as well. So I think this only makes it harder for the other unions to get what they want because this contract has some baring on what they get. In other words, it's another 2700 workers that will and should get raises. In fact, once Corbett is out of there and he will and if the funding comes back to the district, that too, allows the contract to reopen for ONLY wage increases. 1201 does NOT pay into their healthcare or for any other benefits at all....and ALL the other benefits stayed the same~just a few minor changes (i.e. no OT unless you actually work the 40 hr. week~no sick/vacation time can be used in that 40 hr. week). George R. deserves so much credit. He worked hard and saved 2,700 jobs in this type of economic situation. Proud of Local 1201 members! They were up against tough resistance and fought hard with a decent outcome.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 08:16.

Just want to clarify..."not all that bad" and "decent" meaning....health benefits did NOT change (NO EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS) and that goes a long way for people who have families...Again, the $ give back really really stinks and I'm not trying to make is sound like NO BIG DEAL (It is!) and the fact that it is a double whammy since they are giving back $ and a pay freeze all at the same time makes it even harder to swallow...but again, it was either outside contractors/NO job. And for those making 30K or less it was a $5.00 deduction per pay check ($20 per month)~perspectively thinking; one trip to Wawa or two pack of cigarettes.

For those confused...read the contract addendum....link above~

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 19:14.

So you think because nobody get's layoff today means that this is a good deal. Then whatever you are reading you need to read it again because as we know there are going to be people of our union getting layoff because we no that the district is going to close some schools starting next school year and as we keep paying the district to keep our jobs. What about the people that will be losing their job and being replace with this new word supplemental employees. Don't look at the tress and not the forest wake up the cleaning people and the building engineers and transportation got threw under the bus. Who did make out of this hold thing is the mechanics because whatever the district doe's the mechanics will not be effected by anything they do, so every person that is reading this comment needs to look at September 20 to vote for NEW LEADERSHIP and not this team that gave took our health care from the district or our we will not get a paid increase for the next 6 years counting the last 2 years.So cleaning people building engineers need to wake up and vote George out of office because 4 more years of this we all be outside looking in. WAKE UP

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 13:19.

PFT isn't giving up anything. Far too many members than 1201 and we already gave $30 million back to the District to save money last year. District can't attract and retain enough teachers as it is. Ball is in our court on this one.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 15:21.

I really hope the ball is in your court..because that can only be a positive to 1201..if teachers get raises...the contract can be reopened for raises for these workers..I don't want to see anyone give up anything or jobs....but in perspective...2700 members are giving back 100 million...what do you think 10,000 plus teachers will have to give up in 5 yrs? I really hope for the best...but I think there will be give backs...and my guess is in healthcare benefits....we will see when that time comes...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 23:50.

A "contribution" of $25 to $45 dollars per week from low paid workers to the District? Is this part of the spin that Sage Communications and the Bravo Group have been paid $160 million to come up with? We have been taken over by a vile group of people!

Submitted by anon (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 00:05.

actually it's 160 thou not 160 mill. still, that's not a bad idea. we could really spin things right for that kind of dough. wonder if it's too late to get george back in here to renegotiate. i'll have to send pedro a memo tomorrow to get busy on it.
j

Submitted by anon (not verified) on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 23:58.

let's see, 100 mill divided by 2700 peons works out to about 37 thou apiece over 4 years. that ought pay for a few good "seats" (at the 4 seasons LOL). not too shabby a day's work tommie k! told you they'd cave in. teachers ought to be good for at least twice that.

by the way posters, before taxes, after taxes, it's whatever i damn well say it is. the sooner you get that straight, the better off you'll be. just make sure you keep those "contributions" coming. now get back to work.
j

Submitted by Anon (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 07:35.

These details make me feel so much better about seeing Nunery slide into his Porsche before the SRC meeting last night.

Submitted by Joan Taylor on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 09:02.

Thank you for that image. It says it all.

Submitted by Anonymous ok (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 09:41.

1201 elections can not get here fast enough

Submitted by I VOTED NO! (not verified) on Tue, 09/04/2012 - 10:13.

Be nice if someone was running, all are unopposed except for George!

We need lawyers like William Hite's got!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 09:52.

Why is that Knudsen need not shave dollars off his $25,000p/month salary? Just asking...

This is not an attempt to badmouth Building Cleaners and BE's because the majority work hard and show up almost everyday. But, there's that minority who "hideout," do poor work and are absent a third or more of each school year. This is the group that will give the powers that be the ammunition to justify privatization.

I recommend that Knudsen and whoever is in charge of facilities (I question if there is really someone at the helm) take a walk around a dozen schools to see how far away schools are from a national standard for cleaning and maintenance. While visiting schools look at attendance records for the outrageous poor attenders. Then come up with a standard for attendance.

Please publicize the standard for cleaning and maintaining so that everyone is clear about what it means and looks like for a school to be properly cleaned and maintained.

The SDP must reculturate it's facilities operations, which includes cleaning and maintenance or else we'll keep getting the same thing we've been getting while we wait for privatization.

Submitted by ! (not verified) on Tue, 09/04/2012 - 10:23.

It is the School District that allows the bad apples to stay making the entire work force look bad. If management was doing it's job these time abusers, and hiders as you call them would be fired. I know my staff goes above and beyond their job titles and my building, teaching staff, and students, would all suffer greatly without them.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 10:12.

Are you prepared for the same methods to be used on teachers ("while we wait for privitization").

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 16:15.

While we wait for Achievement Networks, I believe every employee in every division of the SDP must be held to high standards.

Submitted by A Touch of Sense (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 16:47.

The use of the term "'Achievement Networks" is Orwellian psychobabble for privatization. They are divisions controlled by private interests.

Everything I see happening to us and our children is both Orwellian and Faustian.

Whatever happened to honesty and integrity. It is all about the money grab and our children are being used as pawns.

The players in this charade turn my stomach. You speak of standards? Yes, all of the players need to be held to standards.

Submitted by Philly Teacher (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 01:53.

One big difference is you don't need to be certified to be a custodian. You do need certification to be a teacher. You can't replace all of the teachers with non unionized teachers. You could replace all custodians.

Submitted by Concerned Philadelphian (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 05:52.

The SDP can't replace every teacher but it has relied on privatization organization like Teach for America which would gladly fill our schools with inexperienced, un-certified recent college graduates. TFA is petitioning Congress to classify their recruits as "highly qualified" after their 5 week summer training. Remember, in Philadelphia, over 50% of the TFA recruits have taught subjects they did NOT study in college. A business major is assigned to social studies, a sports management major is teaching math, a political science major is teaching English and a psychology major is teaching science. With special education, it is more ridiculous. So, between Hite's relationship with the Broad Foundation, Ramos dealing and wheeling, and Nowak calling the shot, we can't be so secure.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 13:22.

Your in panic mode. No way to replace 10,000 teachers period! End of story.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 06:35.

However, you do need a license to be a building engineer. I would like to see you pass that test!

Submitted by Concerned Philadelphian (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 07:20.

There are also requirements for bus drivers - a job I would not want! None of these jobs can be "outsourced."

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 14:23.

They can't be outsourced but they are services that can be provided by outside companies.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 13:25.

I understand your comment, however, the janitorial staff, with Principal complaining and all, rarely cleans the bathrooms in my wife's Kindergarten room even after repeated requests to the staff. This happens with a lot of teachers classrooms. The room smells like piss!! The JANITORS should do their job. I call it lazy and could care less.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 14:25.

Right. I've had to deal with bad custodians before--and bad teachers. I firmly believe we need accountability for all jobs and consistently bad employees should be let go. But, that's not reflective of most employees.

Submitted by Anon, anon, we must go anon.... (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 15:10.

The principal has the authority to discipline cleaning staff just like they can discipline teaching staff. If he/she do not do it, it is a failure of leadership on the part of the principal. The principal simply directs the staff to do their jobs, if they will not, he/she can notify their boss and then write them up. If this is done consistently, the cleaning staff will either do their jobs or get fired. The principal must have the will to do what his/her job requires.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 09:03.

@ Philly Teacher: but as they replace with charters, union teachers are being replaced with non-union certified teachers. FYI...Skilled labor is part of this equation (custodian)...Building engineers, welders, steamfitters, electricians, etc. all need some form of certifications and the district almost outsourced their jobs. I think the teachers are going to have a very tough fight on their hands. I think the bigger fight is to fight against charters~(I think one could call this "outsourcing jobs"). 1201 employees went through hell for a year since they received their 1 yr. layoff notice and the bargaining began. It took a year for a contract to be ratified. I hope PFT is bargaining now~

Submitted by Ms.Cheng (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 10:27.

PFT needs to assert that statistics need to follow a child, and not exist as a "snapshot" in a school with selective representation. If jobs depend on this loophole assessment of "high performing seats", then this loophole needs to be closed. In addition, if jobs are lost because of unfair (unequal standards) expansion of charter/outsourced seats, then teachers that lose their jobs as a result are entitled to compensation. I hope the PFT does not lose this opportunity on behalf of us all.

Submitted by Anonymous ok (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 10:13.

I agree there is some dead weight.the union need to get the dead weight out.but if they do that there be a lot less union dues money never will happen

Submitted by Joan Taylor on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 10:58.

Dead weight is a fact of life. It pervades all businesses...even Bain Capital. I laugh when people talk admiringly of running schools "like a business." Whose business would that be? That of the people who manipulated Libor and other financial rates and who were instrumental in generating the financial mess that we must all contend with?

If we're going to get out the dead weight, why not get out the weightiest? That would mean starting at the top, not the bottom. If we're going after waste, let's go where the money is.

Submitted by Bullseye #1 (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 11:57.

Be happy

Submitted by Anonymous ok (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 12:16.

So for every school that closes seiu will have 4 people layoff i dont rember that being said at union meeting so they close 60 over next 4 years that240 layoffs no laysoffs huh george lair

Submitted by Ms.Cheng (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 09:08.

If the SDP continues to downsize, there will be layoffs. It will be that much harder to prepare for with the paycuts. Be aware that CCP, Community College of Philadelphia, has a program (free or subsidized I believe) to retrain workers that are laid off so they can find work in "in demand" fields.

Submitted by LOUIE DAGA (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 12:20.

Maybe Mr R. Zambranno and Mr Bobby Boy Hunter can dish out the OT to all of their hard working Men and Women.! Not just the normal cronnies who get it 24/7/365!!! WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!! We don/t what the pie or even a slice of pie!!! Just some crumbs would be nice!!!.That would makeup 4 the money we gave back to save YOUR JOBS and all of your ACE STAFF!!!!! Come on Boy's step up to the plate!!! SHARE THE WEALTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by Anonymous ok (not verified) on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 13:44.

Sdp short 100 million on charter school money was 39 million then oh it 139 million let call george back in for the money they will cane in to our demand and low and behold hiw much us the contract costing 100 million go figure

Submitted by jackoff (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 10:11.

Im just happy to have a job! Thankyou SRC!!!!! Your doing a great job!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 11:23.

I am going to file a grievance! Why should I pay $45 if I am making 47,000 and someone making $44,999 only has to pay $25 and someone making $60,000 plus pays the same $45. That is not fair! It should be a % of base salary. Anybody think we could win ??????

Submitted by Pseudonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 11:51.

It's going to be hard to grieve the contract itself. Who do you file a grievance against, and who will represent it?

More important is fact that this is not actually averting layoffs-- they will lay us all off when they close 60 schools in the next 2 or 3 years.

This is something that can actually be fought, and should be fought, because they are converting so much of our school system into private schools which do not actually do better even though they get to be selective about their students. We need to fight the privatization propaganda for the good of our students, our schools, our communities, and our future.

This is much bigger than $45. They wanted to have a specific dollar amount like that tied to the deal so that when employees complain, they can present it to the public like "Look at these greedy union members, complaining about $45 a paycheck when most of our taxpayers have taken huge pay cuts." It ain't right, but they play as dirty and as low as they can.

Submitted by WIRENUT (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 14:49.

WHERE HAVE YOU GONE GERRY MALKO??? GERRY would of went to bat for his men!!! Not sell the down the river to save there own A$$!!!!! GERRY PLEASE COME BACK!!!!!!

Submitted by #2 (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 14:57.

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 16:38.

Well this is going to effect every member in our union except for the overtime kings in maintenance. Wake up people this is not a good agreement it did safe our jobs for today but what about tomorrow.New Leadership is needed to try and fix this big problem that George and his administration has giving to the SRC everything we had work hard to get they just gave it all away. People September is coming please really take a look at what has happen to our members in the last 4 years.This is not who we need to lead us again. NEW LEADERSHIP is a must.

Submitted by WIRENUT (not verified) on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:03.

Hey I,m one of them overtime kings, I work hard for my $ 90,000 plus . Keep up the good work George and lets shout out to Bob Hunter. Keep it coming.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:06.

Well thanks to you for making 90.000 a year yes I to should thank Hunter but that's not the case. This leadership was taking everything we had and gave it back without a care of their membership we told thwm NO for the health care and George found away to used a mail in ballot to pass it disregard what was said at our meeting at U City when we voted NO but as always its what george wants because its his union not ours. And for you yes you should thank them for allowing you to make 90. 000 your family won't miss the 45 dollars a week like some of us. You very should say thank you to them

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:15.

Good job. Now we need to wrest a few hundred million in concessions from the PFT. It's time to face reality, folks.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 17:54.

REALITY. PFT has already given, in fact we were the first to give. In our third year with no raises, plus gave $30 million from Health and Welfare fund, plus an increase in our last contract to the contributions we already (that's right ALREADY and always have) make to our Health Care

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 18:39.

Dream on, the teachers in Philly work one of the hardest jobs around for one of the lowest wages paid to teachers in PA. You're getting a bargin. Push it and you have a house of cards filled with Teach For America (for a year at the most) newbies who will be in for a shock. The reality is that this job pushes teachers into other lines of work even in the best of times. Make it even less attractive, fools, and Philly will look like a ghost town.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:02.

Thanks George for all of your hard work. Anyone who thinks this is a bad deal for us is a moron. George was put in a bind by the SRC and got the best deal he could for us. Do i like giving back $45 a week ? No Way but it is better than losing my job and benefits. It would have cost my family $ 1160 a month for insurance through my wife's plan. Add that to the lost of wages from collecting unemployment and it would have been a total mess. Ill be there anytime for George and his staff. They did the best they could under the circumstances they were in. If you think any different your a complete idiot. I am a mechanic and love my job. I hope George stays for many more years and I will be there for him. The biggest problems we have facing 1201 is Bob Hunter who forgets where he came from and that he once was a worker. The other is Caldwell. He is no good for any of us in 1201. There is a man who wants to undermind us. Lets get the two of them out. They are the enemy not George. Ask Nutter how did Caldwell get his job ? Ill tell you how. He is a friend of Nutter who need a job after his was cut by the city. What a joke.
So everyone enjoy the four years and be glad we have leadership like George.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:28.

It's a sad thing when people have to take the scraps that the people in power want to throw at them.

Submitted by jackoff (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:44.

I wish they would throw me a few scraps.

Submitted by Wirenut (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:37.

Well said! Wirenut is on his way to OT. My wife and kids will be alone AGAIN this weekend down N.Wildwood1 Oh well.

Submitted by Anonymous ok (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:33.

george sucks

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:41.

Well moron as you call everybody that don't agree with you as always you mechanics only think about yourselfs.but what about the hold union the people the cleaners bus drivers what about them losing their jobs. Moron tell me one thing has George done for our union. And for you to say that he had no choice yes he did by not going in there in the first place. Not one member ask him to talk with the district he took it upon him self to go and talk to them. As alway as long as nobody messing with the mechanics y'all don't care about no one y'all self. Stop being selfish because what happening to them tomorrow. Well surely happen to you the next time and it won't be 4 years. So you follow George and you see were you in up.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:02.

Well if the Cleaners and the Bus drivers were not happy with the deal then you had the power to vote NO. You out number the Mechanics 5 to 1 so it looks like most of the Mopjockeys and card playing Bus drivers voted yes. There was only 1400 votes so that means 1300 people didnot vote, mostly cleaners and Bus people. it looks like! Oh well you had your chance and dropped the ball. So stop crying and keep working. Keep up the good work George.R

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:23.

missing your kids growing up huh wirenut where daddy oh he working baby you know how he loves money more than us baby

Submitted by Wirenut (not verified) on Mon, 07/30/2012 - 13:03.

You sound like my wife. But she is still down the shore with my kids in the beach house. I still love my wife and Kids , whatever their names are. GREED IS GOOD.

Submitted by sanitized (not verified) on Mon, 07/30/2012 - 14:40.

wirenut is the most down to earth kind of person who understands the working man

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:32.

Hey it's me again. I knew there would be a MORON or two who would thing George sold us out. If not for him the cleaners would have lost there jobs this week followed by the mechanics in September and the building engineers on Dec 31st. If you think for one second that the SRC would not replace us, then you are a bigger fool then I though. We are replaceable. George and his team kept our jobs and benefits while being under the gun. Your a total IDIOT if you think anything different. My kids go to school in the Colonial School District where the bussing is done by contract and the cleaning is also. So don't be fooled and think we could have waited the SRC out. Your the kind of person who I am glad is not running this Union. We would have all lost our jobs. Get into the real world and see whats happening to our type of jobs. but you probably never had a job outside the district. I.m just glad people l,ike you don't run this Union.
George, like always keep up the fight and never let up.

Thanks

A Very Happy Mechanic

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 17:59.

A moron did you NOT read what it said IF the school district close its building.We will lose 4 people per building I understand because knowing how you think you would had been one of the moron being layoff on the first wave, but its alright because again he stood there and said NOBODY will be layoff off in 4 years. As we are writing these comments back and forth the district are getting those plans together to close some building because of the charter schools are expanding. And one more thing you probably got this job because of who you know and if you had to go outside of this job you couldn't find a another one because this is all you no. And don't think for one minute that this can't happen because we agree to this one, oh that's right you don't care about the hold union just your family. you follow George and September is coming very soon.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 18:22.

Well it looks like you are the MORON because the last I checked over 1300 voted yes and I guess you were one of the IDIOTS that voted no. What was their 100 who did that ? I worked on the outside and know what it is like to work a full 8 hrs a day. I know you don't. Your one of the ones who would gladly collect and suck off the state getting unemployment and then welfare. They are going to close buildings we can't do anything about that. the union might loose a few members but the most of us will be fine. You must be one of the ones who is at the bottom of the list. So be smart and start looking for another job now. Don't be lazy but that might be hard for you.

Keep going strong George and I look forward to four more years with him as my Leader.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 19:22.

So lose a few but not you man that's selfish you right the next time its going to be you. We have to wait and see what happen if we knew that the mechanics wasn't really part of this them we should have taking the first hit and you would had been layoff.enjoy your four years

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 20:55.

Kudos to 32 BJ for understanding the reality of the economic times and saving its members' jobs. Let's hope the PFT approaches its concessions with the same realism.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 07/27/2012 - 23:16.

Keep dreaming. Stop believing the propaganda.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 07/30/2012 - 09:57.

As a taxpayer, it is clear to me that SEIU's bought of stooges on city council forced the SRC to basically cave in. No layoffs, or 4 layoffs per closed school? BFD. Increasing fixed costs as the district shrinks. Why is the SEIU even able to dictate the size of the workforce? Very few states allow the union to negotiate employment size- this is the reason Philly still has the same number of public employees as it did in the 1950's despite 500k less.

Bottom line is SEIU is guaranteed $25mm more a year than it would cost anyone else to do their service. Courtesy of the minority of Philadelphians that actually pay net taxes. State receivorship of the whole city is thus one step closer.

Submitted by Garden Maintenance Kent (not verified) on Fri, 09/28/2012 - 03:55.

Well if the Cleaners and the Bus drivers were not happy with the deal then you had the power to vote NO. You out number the Mechanics 5 to 1 so it looks like most of the Mopjockeys and card playing Bus drivers voted yes.

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