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Dozens more schools lose school police due to budget cuts

By Kevin McCorry for NewsWorks on Aug 21, 2014 11:44 AM
Photo: Emma Lee/WHYY

In a move that leaders hope will be temporary, the Philadelphia School District will not fill its staffing vacancies for school police officers, causing a few dozen additional schools to share an officer when classes begin Sept. 8.

This inaction amounts to a 10 percent cut in school police workforce — saving the district $2.4 million.

The 26 elementary and middle schools affected will only have an officer in the building for half of the week.

Two of the schools on the list, Blaine and W.D. Kelley, have undergone vast staffing changes through an "internal turnaround" process.

Another, Steel Elementary, opens in September after a highly unusual spring. The District asked families to consider turning the school into a charter through the Renaissance process and then held a vote for parents to show their opinions.  Parents ultimately voted to keep the school under District control.

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Comments (77)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 1:59 pm

Hopefully the students will only misbehave when their is an adequate school police presence.  Otherwise they'll be in big trouble.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 2:37 pm

School Police…. Not needed at all!!!!! Neither are metal detectors???   I have been a part of 6 school turnarounds in Philadelphia and in each case have completely removed school police and metal detectors.  In its replacement, you put in good management.  As a result, the schools that have metal detectors removed (North Philly, Germantown, West Philly and South West Philly) and replaced with good management have drastically dropped in violent incidents.  Quite frankly it is disrespectful to the comunnity to have “School Police” monitor schools… especially Elementary???? 

Here is what the naysayers will say…..  Look at the element that is in the schools, “they” (African Americans) are a dangerous group of people that need to be managed by strict force and authoritarian control…….for their own safety.    Let me be clear, those that say this just don’t have the know-how, pedigree, intellect, problem solving skills, social awareness and grit… to manage a school correctly.

Bottom line, you can manage a school very well and safely without “School Police and Metal Detectors”…. Cut the entire budget and replace it with good management.

 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 2:12 pm

Have you ever worked in neighborhood high schools and other middle schools. have you read the news what happened at Bartram, overbrook, west Philly, Ben Franklin and othe high schools. Do you how many students and staff assaluted every year? What is Hite saying? Are schools safe to open? Is he crazy? HITE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS OR STAFF. ALL ABOUT HIMSELF! OTHERWISE WHY WOULD HE OPEN SCHOOLS WITH FEWER STAFF THAN LAST YEAR.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 2:55 pm

YES.  I work in"one of those schools now (North Philly)".  Removed School Police and we are doing quite well.  Put in a thoughtful management plan and problem of school violence goes down... Simple.  Linving the proof of it now.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 2:03 pm

Please come down to schools in South, Southwest and West of Philadelphia. Teachers are scared to go to schools now. Why did the teacher in Ben Frankin resign? No support and students are running around and assaulting students and staff. There is only one 1 principal and 1 ap for 1300 students.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 2:30 pm

I would be happy to.  Its really not that complicated.  Its just Good Management.  Good Management does not always correlate to lots of people.

Submitted by Anon (not verified) on August 21, 2014 3:04 pm

You must have a strong principal.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 9:55 pm

Are you one of the new principal brought by Dr. Hite? You need the job so badly at the cost of other people's lives! 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 9:45 pm

Oh, you must be the one of the new principals from a different school district, BROUGHT IN to KISS HITE'S ASS OTHERWISE YOU WILL NEVER SUPPORT HITE FOR OPENING SCHOOLS WITH LESS RESOURCES.

Submitted by Dave M (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:43 pm

LOL.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 5:35 pm

Frankly, I've been around much too long to believe a word you are saying. So I challenge you before every reader here to prove me wrong. Tell me the name of the school you are currently at that has worked such miracles after eliminating security officers. Give us the names of those other six schools you worked at that had such incredible turnarounds. I honestly think you're either a troll or you've been smoking the funny brand. PLEASE prove me wrong. Tell us all the names of these supposed miracle schools. We're waiting.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 9:17 pm

Wow! Your school is awesome! The staff must be amazing. I wish we all could bask in the aura of your presence.  Speak for yourself and not others. My school needs school police.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 11:54 am

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Far, far better than I could ever hope to do, your sophomoric and asinine comments about replacing trained security officers with "fresh approach" school managers has spotlighted how recklessly naieve and inept 440 leadership has become. But, of course, YOU won't be bearing the brunt of the violence and carnage that will engulf our schools this year - it will be teachers like myself, trapped helplessly in our classrooms while hordes of miscreants rampage through the halls and attack whomever crosses their paths - you know, exactly like last year, only much worse. Ever been caught in the middle of a 40 student beatdown? I have twice and, believe me, it's not much fun. I got two black eyes, and were it not for the fearlessness of our school police, I'm sure I'd have gotten much worse. Would LOVE to see YOU in the middle of such a frenzy, patiently explaining all your new style management techniques while fists are flying and Coke bottles go whizzing past your head. I'm sure that once you flashed your administrative credential, things would calm down immediately and peace, love, rainbows and unicorns would abound. You, my friend, are an utter dolt. And THIS is why you and your 440 colleagues are so rabidly hated and thoroughly despised by the rank and file teaching staff of this school district.

Submitted by Dave M (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:36 pm

Right on!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 5:46 pm

A funny thing happened to me last week on my way to picking up school supplies for my high school class this year. For several weeks, the thought of returning to the nightmare I faced last year has made me an emotional wreck. The kids throughout our school ran riot - DESPITE outstanding efforts by our principal and our AP (who is now gone.) We were so horribly understaffed and so overwhelmed stamping out a hundred fires every day. There was virtually nothing we could do to protect ourselves from the violence and pandemonium. I was threatened, cursed at, spit on, kicked and sucker punched from behind, and hit in the face by a science text some anonymous thug threw at me in the hallway after screaming "C**T!" at me. And yet other teachers got it even worse than I did.

In 16 years of teaching both in Maryland and here, I have never experienced anything so terrifying and out of control as this school district now is. My own students' behavior was too outrageous to describe. And our one (sometimes two) security officers were going frantic trying to keep up with all the mayhem. I once had three assistants (including two one-on-ones) to help me deal with the most violent of my 18 emotional support pupils. Next year, there is only me.

Last Friday, while shopping for school supplies, I suddenly started shaking and crying and I couldn't stop. The thought of returning for yet another year of chaos and danger - and even worse, with fewer security officers, less staff and less money - overtook me. I sat in my car and I cried like a baby for over an hour. Then I drove to an emergency room where, after several hours, I emerged with a diagnosis of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, a prescription for Alprazolam, and an appointment with a therapist. My husband and my daughter have since strictly forbidden me to ever return to a Philadelphia classroom, and fortunately, I have enough income and insurance coverage to resign.

Right now I feel numb to the soul, but in October, my husband and I are taking a twentieth anniversary cruise, and I find that this is the first thing I've had to look forward to in years. I beg anyone whose nerves (like mine) have been shattered by the relentless stress of these past several years - who can't eat or sleep and feel constantly tired and teary - to seek professional help before you reach a crisis point like I did. PTSD is a killer and no job is worth a stroke or a heart attack. And no job is worth your sanity or your personal happiness. God bless and keep all of you who return on September 2nd. You are in my thoughts and you will always be in my prayers.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 8:26 pm

everything you mentioned like getting teary and shaking and feeling anxious and numb and helpless and scared is exactly what I hav been experiencing!!! I'm having nightmares and feel sick and can't eat and can't sleep and starting to get panic attacks every time i think of going back and face another terrible year like last year or of getting laid off again in October or December with or without cigarette tax. First thing tomorow, I'm setting up an appointmnt with my doctor and see if i can find some way out of this. Thank you for you warning and  i wish you a hundred good wishes.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 9:10 am

Wonder how many teachers will be going out on stress disability this year?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 9:09 am

All of them including principals

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 11:44 am

And don't think that the head honchos at 440 aren't pooping themselves, worried about just this possibility and praying fervently that it doesn't occur to any of us.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 11:52 am

Hite, Kihn and his administration do not care about anybody. THEY ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS. Hite does not care about students. IF HE REALLY CARED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS WILL HE EVER OPEN WITH LESS PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES. HOTE CONTINUES TO BRING IN INEXPERIENCED PRINCIPALS AND THEY HAVE ABABDONED THE DISTRICT. The great Strength and quality of a great LEADER is to harness or tap talents and RETAIN THEM. Hite has become a monster and he lays off people  but brings in people in different category. 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 2:07 pm

Hite does not care. Even when a child died in a school because of lack of nurses in the building, he did not bring back the nurses and when many students did not fill up college applications- he did not bring back the counselors and when the schools like Bartram, overbrook, Frankford, Fels, Ben Franklin, West Philly and other Elementary schools ran loose, he did not bring back the assistant principals. HITE DOES NOT CARE.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 3:19 pm

He was sent here to do the dirty work of the tea party and big oil.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 1:58 am

Please tell us which HIGH SCHOOLS you have been a part of.  As you can see, we find it hard to believe you have been a part of several HIGH SCHOOL "turnarounds" under District control that included the elimination of metal detectors and school police.  If so, we applaud your school(s) and perhaps we should replicate it.  If you are talking about Renaissance Charter programs, then that would explain a lot too (more resources usually available). 

So, what high schools were they again???

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 5:08 pm
I know you're not working at Edison!!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 5:35 pm

He is not working at Fels, Frankford, Lincoln, Carnell,kensington, Washington High, Btram, overbrook, west Philly, Patterson, Tilden, Ben Franklin,Dobbins...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 4:37 pm

Must not be too good at your job, if you have moved (or been asked to move) around to six different schools?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 4:44 pm

You mean 1 principal for neighborhood school with 1300 students.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 8:33 pm
The system in many of our neighborhood school is simply not working. Some of you are afraid to admit it because of job security. Unless there are changes to that system, there is no job for everyone and sooner or later, the system will crumble ad you may be the next to move or be asked to move The “mindset” of administrations in the PSD is wrong and Dr. Hite articulates it well. In his terms, the solutions are school redesign, work-rules changes, teacher evaluation, and autonomy to principals among his other solutions May be some teachers have the gut to think about the problems and not pretend that all is well
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 9:04 pm

Are you one of the new principals brought in by Dr. Hite? You don't pretend as though there are no problems in the schools. Either you are paid highly to speak as though there are no problems in the District or you are one of the highly paid administrators in 440, who have never been in the schools. At Fels, when there were 4 administrators, the school was removed from dangerously persistent list because there were enough support to monitor students and meet with the parents.  Frankford, Bartram, West Philly, Ben Franklin, EDison, Overbrook need administrators to meet the students and parents who are very needy.

Unless, you work with these studenst and families, you will NEVER UNDERSTAND. YOU ARE HEARTLESS

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 2:20 am

ENOUGH of your b.s.propaganda. Tell us the name of your school and those 6 schools you allegedly turned around. Or else go back to Baltimore.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 8:07 am

You are truly a despicable human being, spouting this work-rule changes/teacher evaluation/ dump security filth while schools are being put on concentration camp starvation diets and the lives of teachers and students are being thrown into unpardonable chaos and turmoil. It is not the teachers who believe that "all is well." WE are the ones on the front lines. We have seen the problems firsthand - and they are YOU! As a group, we are extraordinarily saavy. For instance, we can discern in a flash that you are a 440 bred - brown-nosing - steal from the public trough - the hell with the students - Corbett-bot (or Hite-bot, which is just about the same.) How could you possibly believe that your comments would be met with anything but the contempt they deserve and that your divisive attitude would garner anything but the derisive laughter that you and your rapacious 440 cohorts merit? Show THIS to your worthless 440 chums - read it aloud to Mr. Hite - and then tell them all precisely where they may shove it.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 22, 2014 9:39 am

Why is educating children suddenly so mind-boggling? I'll tell you why. Every one with an advanced degree thinks they are the second coming of Socrates, therefore we get bombarded with unproven programs or curriculum modifications that dont work  year after year. Nothing I learned in my graduate classes is of practical use for teaching a class of 30 kids with 20% proficiencies, no supplies, no current technology or meaningful learning support. Now, educating minorities is big business and everyone who can is trying to cash in. Politicians and their friends, business peolple, and entrepeneurs will reap the financial benefits of the "lab rat" experimentation on the underperforming minority kids.  Its simple.  Give us what we need, step back and just let teachers teach. Then you can truely evaluate our performance. 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 11:17 am

Have you ever worked with families and students in neighborhood schools? The schools are successful if and only if enough supports are given.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 11:46 pm

Germantown? Really? Sorry, but I was there in '12 and '13 and we sure had metal detectors and school police. Oh, you mean now? Sure, you are right, there are no metal detectors or school police.... becase the building is CLOSED! 

Stop making up facts and spreading lies. I've been in the District for 15 years and have yet to see a school function without school police.  We are in for a rough year. 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 21, 2014 11:59 pm

UNLESS SOMEONE GETS KILLED, HITE AND GREEN WILL NEVER SHUT UP .

Submitted by ex_Gtown_teacher (not verified) on August 22, 2014 1:28 pm

I spent three full academic years teaching at Germantown. From the day I started until the day the school closed for good, they had school police every day, and metal detectors at both of their entrances. I can't speak for other schools, but on this point the OP is either lying, grossly misinformed, or overestimating whatever influence they think they had.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 7:34 am

You still haven't shared with us the names of the schools you "supposedly" turned around after eliminating school police and metal detectors.   You've been challenged by several readers interested in your outrageous assertions.  So, if they are not so outrageous, and you believe them to be true, then please name your previous schools and your current school.   Don't you want us all to know so we can replicate your great "management plan"???

 

By not sharing, we suspect you are a fraud!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 8:29 am

He will never answer because it is a lie. HE IS NEW PRINCIPAL OF THAT SCHOOL.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 23, 2014 6:21 pm

Right you are! This reprehensible post has the rancid smell of Hite all over it - no doubt operating through one of his out-of-state/newly imported, grossly overpaid lackeys. If the purpose of this post was to make Philadelphia teachers despise Hite even more than we already do - and to gird our loins for battle with every one of his invading army of numskull administrators - then it has succeeded admirably. THIS is the year that open warfare breaks out against the SRC, the Governor, and Hite's Hordes. When the smoke clears, we shall see exactly who needs whom.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 5:38 am

But what can we do? CASA AND PFT ARE GONE. wE HAVE NO ONE TO FIGHT FOR US..Even Mayor is not supporting Philadelphians.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 5:44 am

But what can we do? CASA AND PFT ARE GONE. wE HAVE NO ONE TO FIGHT FOR US..Even Mayor is not supporting Philadelphians.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 5:48 am

But what can we do? CASA AND PFT ARE GONE. wE HAVE NO ONE TO FIGHT FOR US..Even Mayor is not supporting Philadelphians.

Submitted by Lisa Haver on August 22, 2014 1:04 pm

Someone who remembers remind us of how well the Safe Corridors program went last year.  I'm surprised Dr. Hite would even want to mention it.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:45 am

“Good Management” entails the following: Focus on the basics first. 1) How students enter your school safely 2) How they transition in your hallways 3) How they safely eat lunch and 4) How they dismiss.  Folks… this actually takes planning and thought.  This is where 75% of your potential behavior issues occur.  The remaining 25% are classroom management issues.  Let’s be clear, posting “School Police” fom morning arrival, in the hallways at lunch or at dismissal is NOT a plan.  It is an extra body WAITING for to REACT to a brewing issue. 

You have to have the full commitment of the school to participate in managing these areas…. And it has to be thoughtful…. And it has to change and adapt and be monitored.  That means someone at the school level has to be accountable for the school culture.  Its NOT about having more resources, its about being smart and focusing on what’s important.  And YES… it’s about moving outside of your comfort zone.  Why not stand on the corner every morning outside of your school to greet students and families. Why not do home visits on a regular basis.  Why not eat lunch with your students to build a better relationship…. Why not stand outside your classroom door and greet with a smile and handshake every student that enters…Why not walk your students 1-2 blocks in the direction they live when they leave school…

What’s your process of identifying issues that are brewing with students, families or in the neighborhood.  A big problem is nothing but a small problem that was overlooked or not caught by the ADULTS in that building.  Do you have a system in which you are reporting small problems for resolution?  This common sense approach can go on for paragraphs…. Bottom line, it’s like I said before… it’s about “Good Management”.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:26 am

BOOTOM LINE IS THERE ARE NO ENOUGH ADULTS IN HE BUILDING TO MONITOR STUDENTS. The school with 1300 students with I PRINCIPAL AND 1 AP, 1 COUNSELOR, 1 NURSE IS NOT POSSIBLE.  Are you getting it? Principals are TIRED WITH NO HELP.Please read the archives- Abington School District- why it is so successful. For 1300 students, the principal has 3 APs and they have secretaries to the paper work, 5 counselors , 2 nurses and so on. WE NEED PERSONNEL TO MAKE A SCHOOL SUCCESSFUL. TO CATER TO THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS. Are you getting it? 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 10:36 am

Teachers are Adults too?  They are a part of the school culture plan... not just administration... this is where the disconnect is.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 10:25 am

We, teachers are teaching 6 periods and sometimes with no prep to cover classes. 30 -33 students in a class and dealing with very angry young youth and angry families. We need more ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT NOT PEOPLE WHO JUST EVALUATE US BUT ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARESUPPORTIVE OF US , TEACHERS, STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. We don't need too many police officers but experienced ADMINISTRATORS AND so when we call for help we get support and NOT PRINCIPAL ARRIVING AFTER 30 MINUTES WHEN I AM ASSAULTED OR STUDENTS ARE ASSAULTED.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 10:44 am

I am pro teacher…but I am more pro student.  WE as adults can figure it out.  WE have degrees, years of experience and high levels of thinking.  If WE can’t figure it out…WE have he option to find another job because WE are fortunate enough to have a solid education that allows us option.  OUR students do not have this luxury.  It is the hardest job in the world to educate OUR children…however… it matters not what the constraints that are put in front of us….WE ARE THE ADULTS… use the skills that were afforded us by our education to make it work… or… step to the side and let others do the work.  OUR students, unlike US, only have 1 shot at succeeding.  I get it! You have constraints…. Figure it out and make it work.  It’s time for the ADULTS to step up.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:13 am

We're still waiting for you to identify your wonder school and the six other schools you worked miracles out. Until you do so, you must forive us all for thinking you're an absolute phony and full of crap.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:16 am

Continue to wait…  I am managing this conversation… and at this point, do not wish it to go off on a tangent.  “Good Management”

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 12:13 pm

You couldn't manage yourself out of a paper bag. Perhaps someone should inform you that spouting falsehood after falsehood with no substantive proof of anything you're saying is hardly a "conversation". - unless you're Mr. Corbett, Mr. Hite, a member of the SRC, or one of their overly-paid flunkeys (Which one are you?). In that case, lying through your teeth is de rigeur. You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being, and if you're any kind of an educator, then I'm the King of Denmark

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:57 pm

You're managing nothing at this point. You're merely running your mouth and spouting, "Good management" like it's some kind of mantra.  Put up or shut up. What are these schools you claim to have helped turn around and why don't you use your name if you're so proud of your work?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:32 pm

I give this effort a "5" on the trolling scale. Not the worst troll I've ever seen, not the best either.

 

As always, ignore the troll and he/she/it will leave.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 4:57 pm

You're so right. My dear mother once told me , "Never engage in a battle of minds with an unarmed man." This idiot has TROLL and PROVOCATEUR written all over him. He could care less about our schools one way or the other. He's just like a second grader with a whoopee cushion. All he wants is the attention.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 7:26 pm

Please don't feed the troll.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:00 pm

ok I will stop...let us all get together and have a rally to remove Hit and Kihn

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 12:19 pm

Hey, you definitely did not teach in any of our neighborhood schools... you are a liar..then reveal your identity...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:45 am

“Good Management” entails the following: Focus on the basics first. 1) How students enter your school safely 2) How they transition in your hallways 3) How they safely eat lunch and 4) How they dismiss.  Folks… this actually takes planning and thought.  This is where 75% of your potential behavior issues occur.  The remaining 25% are classroom management issues.  Let’s be clear, posting “School Police” fom morning arrival, in the hallways at lunch or at dismissal is NOT a plan.  It is an extra body WAITING for to REACT to a brewing issue. 

You have to have the full commitment of the school to participate in managing these areas…. And it has to be thoughtful…. And it has to change and adapt and be monitored.  That means someone at the school level has to be accountable for the school culture.  Its NOT about having more resources, its about being smart and focusing on what’s important.  And YES… it’s about moving outside of your comfort zone.  Why not stand on the corner every morning outside of your school to greet students and families. Why not do home visits on a regular basis.  Why not eat lunch with your students to build a better relationship…. Why not stand outside your classroom door and greet with a smile and handshake every student that enters…Why not walk your students 1-2 blocks in the direction they live when they leave school…

What’s your process of identifying issues that are brewing with students, families or in the neighborhood.  A big problem is nothing but a small problem that was overlooked or not caught by the ADULTS in that building.  Do you have a system in which you are reporting small problems for resolution?  This common sense approach can go on for paragraphs…. Bottom line, it’s like I said before… it’s about “Good Management”.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:11 am

Are you in one of the special admit schools with 250 students?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 10:18 am

no.. I work in North Philly. Public School. 25% Sped, over 500 students.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:19 am

Oh, really? NAME IT! You've kept us all in suspense much too long. Fake!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:30 am

What’s disappointing is that you truly believe a school cannot be run well without School Police.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 12:44 pm

Some schools can, indeed. Many cannot. Your "one size fits all" philosophy is not only juvenile but reprehensible.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:27 pm

Can Bartram, Fels, Franklin, South Philly, Frankford can run with 1 PRINCIPAL, 1 AP AND 1 SPO, 1 COUNSELOR? 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:17 pm

Because students with good behavior and good grades are selected to go to special admit schools and we are stuck here with NO SUPPORT- NO ADMINISTRATORS AND SPO... WHY DID HITE OPEN THESE SCHOOLS AND EVERYDAY TEACHERS ARE GOING TO GO OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE OR WORKERS COMP. GOT IT HITE?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:52 am

“Good Management” entails the following: Focus on the basics first. 1) How students enter your school safely 2) How they transition in your hallways 3) How they safely eat lunch and 4) How they dismiss.  Folks… this actually takes planning and thought.  This is where 75% of your potential behavior issues occur.  The remaining 25% are classroom management issues.  Let’s be clear, posting “School Police” fom morning arrival, in the hallways at lunch or at dismissal is NOT a plan.  It is an extra body WAITING for to REACT to a brewing issue. 

You have to have the full commitment of the school to participate in managing these areas…. And it has to be thoughtful…. And it has to change and adapt and be monitored.  That means someone at the school level has to be accountable for the school culture.  Its NOT about having more resources, its about being smart and focusing on what’s important.  And YES… it’s about moving outside of your comfort zone.  Why not stand on the corner every morning outside of your school to greet students and families. Why not do home visits on a regular basis.  Why not eat lunch with your students to build a better relationship…. Why not stand outside your classroom door and greet with a smile and handshake every student that enters…Why not walk your students 1-2 blocks in the direction they live when they leave school…

What’s your process of identifying issues that are brewing with students, families or in the neighborhood.  A big problem is nothing but a small problem that was overlooked or not caught by the ADULTS in that building.  Do you have a system in which you are reporting small problems for resolution?  This common sense approach can go on for paragraphs…. Bottom line, it’s like I said before… it’s about “Good Management”.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 9:16 am

Are you a principal with a school that has 250 kids?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:05 am

Dear Lord! You honestly don't comprehend how moronic you sound! I thought at first that you were just being facetious, but now I realize that you're a gold-plated, 100% genuine cretin. No, my know-it-all friend, 75% of the problems are NOT confined to entering and exiting school, to lunchtime and to transitioning. They erupt at ANY time and in ANY location - and THIS is why security is desperately needed. It's the kid who suddenly goes berserk in the classroom from ingesting some illegal substance and runs screaming into the hallway, slamming doors and cursing everyone out at the top of his lungs.. It's the violent parent in the principal's office who goes on a tear and starts throwing staplers and pencils at the secretary because her child has just been suspended for the fourth time for assault. It's the boy who sneaks into the bathroom and smashes all the commodes and tears all the soap dispensers off the wall. DON'T talk to us about "moving outside our comfort zone". You sound like a 17 year old Education 101 student and you talk in bumper stickers. Unfortunately, most of us have to live in the REAL world, not the Lollipop Land YOU inhabit. And as for your list of "Why not's .. why not's ..." - they're all GREAT ideas FOR PRE-SCHOOLERS. But try anyone of them at the hardcore high schools I'VE taught in, and you'll have your butt handed to you in a New York minute. "Why not stand outside your classroom door and greet with a smile and a handshake every student that enters?" Gosh oh golly gee willikers! I actually DID do this when I was 22 and just starting out - and after having my hand ignored or slapped away or told "What the f**k are you grinning at me for?" several dozen times, it occured to me that this was only a good idea to the ivory tower morons who write teacher ed textbooks - and the ivory tower morons who spout this particular brand of La La Land idiocy. "A big problem is just a small problem that was overlooked." WOW! Can I sew that on a sampler? Put it on a bumper sticker? Better yet, why don't we all join hands and dance around a maypole singing "Kumbaya?" Why not draw rainbows and butterflies and think happy-happy thoughts instead of Geometry or Social Studies? Instead of hiring a sufficient number of teachers and security officers to keep a school operational, why don't we bake brownies and sing campfire songs and give our students great big bear hugs and then surely your "it's not about having more resources" philosophy will turn Bartram and Franklin and South Philly and Fels into understaffed Heavens on earth.

By the way ... we're all STILL waiting for you to identify your miracle school and those 6 troubled schools you so brilliantly turned around.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 12:47 pm

OMG  THIS IS THE TRUTH, YOU NAILED HIM, HITE, SRC GREEN, KIHN, CORBETT, NUTTER AND ALL THE HEARTLESS 440 IGNORANTS... I FEEL LIKE CRYING...I REALLY DONT WANT GO BACK WITH NO SPO AND ADMINISTRATORS.. 

Submitted by Dave M (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:53 pm

You'll never get your answer.

Submitted by Dave M (not verified) on August 24, 2014 1:54 pm

You'll never get your answer.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 7:15 pm

Actually, by his/her refusal to do anything but post the exact same tripe over and over again (no doubt copied from some SRC-sponsored pamphlet entitled "How to Destroy a School District Without Really Trying"), he (or she) HAS given us our answer. The writer is a non-teaching TROLL with no serious interest in ANYTHING academic - only in engaging in the sort of perverted "power play" that springs from a truly diseased mind and a well-deserved lack of self-esteem. This weenie most likely flips burgers at White Tower or pumps gas for a living - despite the less-than-convincing claims otherwise - and somehow thinks that THIS sort of anonymous "role playing" empowers him/her. ("I manage the conversation." How pathetic! Really - how very, very sad) But we all owe him/her a huge debt of gratitude for preparing us in advance for the legion of Hite-bots dragged in from the nether lands to supervise us this Fall who actually DO espouse this sort of laughable garbage. AND for demonstrating to us just how unified we are in our contempt for these insects.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 24, 2014 11:46 pm

The poster who refuses to identify his school, is from Mastery.

 

Submitted by Annony (not verified) on August 25, 2014 12:04 am

Mastery deals with "management" by employing many, many adults.  They not only have layers of administrators (many, many APs) but many adults who are always in the halls.  This is fine but the SDP does not hire this quantity of staff.  The shift from NTAs to school police happened under Vallas.  Maybe having many adults in the building is a solution but to claim is it just "good management" is not a solution for schools with very few staff.  

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 25, 2014 8:36 am

Of course! Mastery - the greatest American farce since "Arsenic and Old Lace"! Their so-called "25% Special Education population" is 15% speech impaired, 8% hearing deficits, and 2% visual deficits. Toss in a couple of 504's (urinary tract infections, fatigue syndrome, sinusitis, etc.) and give 'em a great big bunny pat on the back for "doing their part". Only forget about their admitting multiply handicapped, mentally retarded or emotionally disturbed kids - you know, the ones who require REAL work - 'cause it'll NEVER happen. No, indeed. THESE challenges are the exclusive domain of the underfunded, understaffed, overwhelmed public schools, which are expected to crap miracles while enduring lectures from glassy-eyed self-righteous know- it-all's who recite over-and-over again their scripted hogwash on the wonders of "school management". Cheesh! Mastery moonies - aren't they just too much?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 25, 2014 10:45 am

The langauge and the sanctimonious, condescending tone used by the person trolling the thread was a dead giveaway that it's someone who works for a charter. Can't say I'm surprised that it's someone from Mastery.

Tone deafness and narcissism are admirable qualities in an educator. <sarcasm>

Submitted by Annony (not verified) on August 25, 2014 12:20 am

Mastery's Central Office (yes, it is larger than many school districts in PA) is at Pickett school - 5700 Wayne Ave.  What does Mastery Inc. pay the SDP for use of the buildings?  Does Mastery Inc. pay extra for Pickett since it is also their Central Office?  (Mastery uses many schools - Thomas, Smedly, Clymer, Harrity, Cleveland, Mann, Gratz, etc.   Gratz also includes a stadium / sports complex.  Does Mastery pay off the debt on the sports complex?)  

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